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Jara · Dec 07, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

I'm happy with it. A relative is giving my brother Factions for Christmas and I'm giving him EotN, so this just means he'll be able to play with my present faster, heh. (I'll be the one dragging him everywhere, too, so he won't be bugging you in outposts.) I imagine it will be nice when I make a new character and want to get to level 20 some way other than the usual Proph/Factions/Nightfall quests.

The more the merrier, right?

Hailey Anne · Dec 07, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Basically I personally just hate the idea, because it kills the idea of GWEN being high end content and having a sort of reasurance that most players there have experience. Also how does a lvl10 deserve to run around in high end armor or to own a destroyer weapon or prestige armor?

Hate to break it to you but lvl 1s have high end armor and destroyer weapons now. Gwen doesnt have the best armor anyway so who cares.

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

GWEN should stay high end IMO.

Gwen isnt high end anyways. Took me all of 4 hours to beat it.

If you dont like the lvl 10-19s there dont group with them. It easy to just not accept the invite.

Feminist Terrorist · Dec 07, 2007, 09:26 PM // 21:26

GWEN was marketed as being for level 20's only, so I think Anet should stick to that. If it's a temp measure, for the weekend, then that's fine, but after that, anyone under level 20 should be unable to continue in GWEN: no more missions or quests. It just ain't right for the expansion to be marketed as "high end content", then for Anet to change that later. Lame.

max gladius · Dec 07, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

letting the players in isnt my problem, the free boost in health and armor and skill / attribute points is,

why even have lvl difference, let everyone spawn at lvl 20, start with 2mil in storage, max armor, perfect builds..... i mean isnt that why we play this game... to get best we can, lets just hand it out like candy at halloween....

btw, this is just about the end of what i can take for a game ruining itself....

Stolen Souls · Dec 07, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

While they're at it they should add Ascension and the 15 Attribute Point quests immediately after leaving pre.

After all. Things need to be more accessable.

Star Gazer · Dec 07, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

good idea souls! after all, everyone with full 200 attribute points affect your gameplay in every way, shape, AND form!

Stolen Souls · Dec 07, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

good idea souls! after all, everyone with full 200 attribute points affect your gameplay in every way, shape, AND form!

Wow. Its awesome that you agree with me! Thanks for making my day! And you're totally right...it DOES! Thanks for pointing that out! I mean...30 extra points in early Ascalon? That's ALMOST as significant as the rediculous buff they give for low-level GW:EN-goers! Wow! *whistles*

Rocky Raccoon · Dec 07, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

It is only for 5 hours total time over 10 days, so I see no problem with this.

Alex the Great · Dec 07, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

wow...not like it is that big a deal

takes me 5 1/2 hours to get to lvl 20 so lvl 10's wont matter that much

and you speak of lower levels like they are different than you, like they are noobs! most of them have other characters

and the grouping thing is BS, they are just as good as a lvl 20 with the boost

max gladius · Dec 07, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

the fact they can get in ist the issue, the boosts are the issue, atleast from my point of view

basically in my eyes, its a cheat anet is implementing..... that is my problem, that is why i am pissed off about it....

why in the world would they think people need the boosts... isnt the game designed for you to reach certain lvls to do certain things? they are over ridding that entirely for no good reason...

lakatz · Dec 07, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41

I was they meant all levels when they said "everyone."

Corwin_Andros · Dec 07, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52

I don't see it as a big deal at all. As has been pointed out, they get that big buff, so their attributes won't be hurting. As has also been pointed out, most of these lower level characters will be played by experienced players. The only thing they might lack in is some skills. No biggie.

Mordakai · Dec 07, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Let's tone down the rhetoric and hyberobole for just a sec...

Can someone please state a logical argument against this boost in GWEN only?

I understand GWEN was not marketed to be for level 10 players. My counter argument: This is an online game. Content is subject to change. I don't see how allowing MORE people to use a product is a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by max gladius

the fact they can get in ist the issue, the boosts are the issue, atleast from my point of view

basically in my eyes, its a cheat anet is implementing..... that is my problem, that is why i am pissed off about it....

why in the world would they think people need the boosts... isnt the game designed for you to reach certain lvls to do certain things? they are over ridding that entirely for no good reason...

As someone else pointed out, I'm sure some bean counter at Anet looked at the number of player under level 20, looked at GWENs sales numbers, and thought: "Hmm, if we allow lower level characters to access GWEN, maybe they'll buy more copies!"

We'll see if it works. But the upside for veterens if you don't feel like leveling up your 14th character.... well, now you can level up easily. It works for me.

Saraphim · Dec 07, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

It is only for 5 hours total time over 10 days, so I see no problem with this.

It's permanent. The Guild Wars site has it on there now. The lvl 10 Journey to the North buff is staying put.

Oh, and ps. My secondary ele has climbed 4 levels in the space of an hour thanks to the huge XP rewards and a little bit of Kilroy shaped fun. Her skill pool is more than adequate as well thanks to tomes. Certainly no different, possibly even better than a new lvl 20 fresh out of Viz Square.

sindex · Dec 07, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

It’s the review backlash of EotN that A-net is still trying to fix. A good portion of the reviews complained about the grind, and they gave a fix to that awhile back. However, their main complaint was the fact that EotN was geared for hardcore players and people who were in their level 20’s. Therefore, this is their fix to that.

Age · Dec 07, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

I thought it was high end lvl area as well but so much for that idea.I don;t see any diferrence from low lvls in Droks wanting power lvlers.What ths means for them is when they return to the low level area they won't recieve the buff that they had.This could all be for GW2 as experiment as for the buff when soloing my guess.

The big issue I have is there are constant bugs in game right now that need fixing and they add this.I would rather them fix those bugs than do this at the moment.

Mordakai · Dec 07, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by Age

I thought it was high end lvl area as well but so much for that idea.

It's still a high level area, else there wouldn't be a boost.

End content: well, that's another topic entirely.

Aerian_Skybane · Dec 07, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

I honestly don't know what to think because we haven't seen the full scope of its integration yet. So until then, I will remain optimistically skeptical.

Loviatar · Dec 07, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Let's tone down the rhetoric and hyperbole for just a sec...

Can someone please state a logical argument against this level boost in GWEN only?

I understand GWEN was not marketed to be for level 10 players. My counter argument: This is an online game. Content is subject to change. I don't see how allowing MORE people to use a product is a bad thing.

there is none

look at the complainers and mostly they are

1. farmers thinking of the drop in prices with more people getting their own instead of buying from them (the high end forum)

2. epeeners with the how can they let the casual common crud into my exclusive area.

max gladius · Dec 07, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

there is none

look at the complainers and mostly they are

1. farmers thinking of the drop in prices with more people getting their own instead of buying from them (the high end forum)

2. epeeners with the how can they let the casual common crud into my exclusive area.

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Originally Posted by max gladius

the fact they can get in ist the issue, the boosts are the issue, atleast from my point of view

basically in my eyes, its a cheat anet is implementing..... that is my problem, that is why i am pissed off about it....

why in the world would they think people need the boosts... isnt the game designed for you to reach certain lvls to do certain things? they are over ridding that entirely for no good reason...

there is my logical reason.... it is unneeded update that is just ruining another aspect of the game... whats next lvl 60 heros that your character rides on the shoulders of to just walk threw the game?

anet is ruining every aspect of this game 1 step at a time.... their answers to fixes are more obsurd then the problem....

problem: mini pets are expensive.
solution: give out tons and tons so everyone has everything

problem: weapons with nice skins are wanted by many
solution: give out tons and tons so everyone has everything

problem: people are getting tired of GW
solution: make skills and armor and such people must grind to obtain

problem: ebayers get lumps of money from stores
solution: if u move more then 90k between accounts with no "equal trade" 72 hr ban

problem: people must take 6hrs to get lvl 20 to enter GWEN
solution: give them boosts to go right in at 2 hrs

anet is ran by a bunch of drama queens who are alone for the holidays and need to spred as much hate and discontent around where ever they can so they dont realize how their game is becoming a total failure.